01:17:55 sujiyan (they/them): now in nyc
01:18:15 Nate Hill: New York!
01:18:53 Lucas Gonze: Oakland CA
01:18:59 Kevin O'Malley: San Anselmo in Marin.
01:19:06 Robert Best: Markham, ON, Canada
01:19:09 Eric Rangell: Downingtown, Pennsylvania
01:19:12 Bernhard Borges (he/him): Austin, TX
01:19:27 Ese: https://getdweb.net/principles
01:19:33 Praveen Yalamanchi: Miami
01:21:06 Ese: https://getdweb.net/code-of-conduct/
01:21:16 Ese: ethics@archive.org
01:21:55 Ese: The Sacred Geometry of Respect, Trust and Equity: https://blog.archive.org/2021/09/03/the-sacred-geometry-of-respect-trust-and-equity/
01:21:57 Gordon Fuller: The Northern Sonoran Desert, Land of the Tohono O'odham, Land of the Akimel O'odham, Land of the Chiricahua/Apache, Land of the Nné - Coyotero, Land of the Yaki, The People's Republic of Tucson, Arizona.
01:25:54 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): Please drop you questions for Coraline here in the chat… or raise your hand to ask your question directly.
01:28:51 Caitlin Olson (she/her): 110%
01:29:56 Veronika Gillies: OMG drop those facts. luv u
01:30:08 Jenny Ryan: yess
01:30:44 Mauve: Really glad this is being recorded so I can send it to folks. :P
01:31:33 juul: Definitely! Also reminds me of how some hackerspaces state the "golden rule" as "don't be a dick" where others state it as "be excellent to each other"
01:33:40 Veronika Gillies: the whole "I'm woke because I have 5 black friends" facts
01:38:09 Mauve: Woooooo
01:38:23 Ana Ulin (she/her): 👏🏼
01:38:30 Veronika Gillies: 👏
01:38:41 Mauve: Do you have any star examples of communities that embody these goals?
01:38:55 patcon (he/him): mauve++
01:40:30 Veronika Gillies: ifme.org?
01:41:05 Mai Sutton: https://www.if-me.org/
01:41:11 Mauve: ♥
01:41:29 Mai Sutton: Hi friends 👋
01:41:33 patcon (he/him): thanks so much, coraline!
01:41:53 juul: Hi Mai!
01:41:59 patcon (he/him): 👋🏻 mai
01:42:00 Jenny Ryan: hey friend <3
01:42:37 Margaret Warren: Hi Mai!!!!!
01:42:37 Jenny Ryan: \o/
01:42:46 Maxim Khailo: A lot of open source projects are run by a BDFL (benevolent dictator for life). Would it be beneficial for open source projects to push for more democratic forms of governance?
01:43:08 sujiyan (they/them): Amazing question Maxim
01:43:11 Mauve: ^ 100%
01:43:12 Gordon Fuller: Thank you, Coraline! ::applause::
01:44:20 Jenny Ryan: +1000 Maxim
01:46:37 Benjamin De Kosnik: +100
01:48:00 Mai Sutton: sadly I can’t do audio/video at the moment but wanted to thank Coraline for this talk, and for bringing your crucial voice and learnings from the open source world to the DWeb community
01:48:18 Margaret Warren: excellent talk. thank you very much.
01:48:20 Maxim Khailo: Love the answer, great example of google . Thanks Coraline!
01:48:35 Coraline Ada Ehmke: https://ethicalsource.dev/
01:48:40 Jesse Karmani (she/her): Wonderful talk, thank you Coraline!
01:49:08 Coraline Ada Ehmke: Thank you all so much!
01:49:44 Mai Sutton: go Jenny!
01:50:05 Michael Grossman (he/him) Factr.com: Thank you so much, Coraline!
01:52:57 Mauve: 100%
01:56:12 Veronika Gillies: why not have a desktop version?
01:56:17 Veronika Gillies: it sounds useful
01:58:00 trav (he/they/any): v cool
01:58:22 Veronika Gillies: germany has a blockchain?
01:59:26 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): Drop any questions for Eyal & Esteroids here:
02:00:20 Jenny Ryan: @Veronkia if you're referring to CENO, there is a web extension in addition to the android app: https://github.com/censorship-no/ceno-ext-settings
02:01:01 Veronika Gillies: thanks jenny
02:01:51 Mauve: Does your democratic web consist of a single democracy with a top-down hierarchy, or is it more like smaller communities that have some sort of democratic structure?
02:02:18 Jenny Ryan: I would have loved a bit more time - need to refine my lightning-talk style :) If anyone is interested in assisting with localization work, we have an open Weblate instance here: https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/censorship-no/
02:02:38 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): ENS = Ethereum Name Service
02:02:54 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): IFPS = Interplanetary File Service (from Protocol Labs)
02:03:13 Veronika Gillies: NFT sounds like echo chamber for anything crypto based
02:03:32 Jenny Ryan: Acronym-translation, super necessary and appreciated, Wendy! 100%
02:03:49 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): NFT = Nonfungible Tokens
02:03:52 Eyal Ron (he/him): esteroids.eth.limo
02:03:53 Eyal Ron (he/him): https://esteroids.medium.com/
02:03:57 patcon (he/him): > germany has a blockchain?
02:04:10 patcon (he/him): veronika https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332029196_DIN_SPEC_3104_Blockchainbased_Data_ValidationBlockchainbasierte_Datenvalidierung :)
02:04:18 Veronika Gillies: thnx patcon
02:05:11 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): DIN specs
02:09:06 Eyal Ron (he/him): I should stress -- I was the main author, not the only one, it was a team work.
02:09:59 juul: What's the benefit over the Tor network which is trusted, free and doesn't encourage people to use hardware with non-free blobs?
02:10:47 mark seiden: probably fewer freeloaders means better performance
02:11:53 Mauve: Ah yes, people that are in crisis that need to bypass censorship and might not have access to money: freeloaders
02:14:04 Jenny Ryan: Presenters should sign their messages here, assuming they show up as 'Host' for all? -Jenny
02:14:16 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): Suji Yan is coming from the Metaverse
02:14:20 Mauve: Whoooops. I was the snippy one - Mauve
02:14:33 Mauve: Sorry about that. (Mauve)
02:14:36 Jenny Ryan: LOL I suspected as much, Mauve :) -Jnny
02:14:42 mark seiden: i mean in the economic sense. my impression is that many free resources end up in a “tragedy of the commons” situation. i personally find tor performance to be problematic compared with every vpn.
02:15:37 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): Mask.io builds encryption on top of Twitter/FB
02:15:47 Jenny Ryan: "Walled Garden Apps" - on point..
02:15:51 Mai Sutton: As a regular participant, I can see your names next to your messages :]
02:16:25 Jenny Ryan: Okay thanks Mai! So I don't need to sign this -jnny
02:17:05 Jenny Ryan: Very cool Sujiyan..
02:20:20 daniel erwin: @sujiyan - this is impressive!
02:20:36 mark seiden: i wonder how fragile this is to api changes by twitter and fb
02:20:44 Kaliya Identity Woman: These are all good questions - I’m working on an event next week - Logging Off Facebook: What’s Next? https://www.eventbrite.com/e/logging-off-facebook-what-comes-next-tickets-201128228947 Nov 12th
02:20:53 Maxim Khailo: Ted Nelson talked about micro transactions over 30 years ago. Have you showed him your project?
02:21:10 Kaliya Identity Woman: A half-day unconference for technologists who are making alternatives to Facebook; policy makers with ideas about how to fix, regulate and/or break-up Facebook; and organizers looking for answers that address Facebook's central and toxic role in civic life.
02:22:22 Zann Gill: Great strategy
02:22:28 Mauve (they/them): Does it work on phones?
02:23:17 sujiyan (they/them): @maxim yes - showed Ted Nelson in 2020!
02:23:30 Maxim Khailo: Amazing, what was his response?
02:23:50 sujiyan (they/them): He like it haha. Took some phx together in Internet Archive
02:25:25 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): Mauve assures us he will have time for questions! Please drop them here.
02:26:07 juul: Hypercooooore!
02:27:13 juul: If you're playing e.g. an FPS with a fairly large amount of movement data, is this movement data all written to an append only log and how did you solve the multiwriter problem?
02:27:54 Mauve (they/them): https://blog.mauve.moe/slides/hypergodot
02:28:18 Gareth: Does this architecture make it easier to cheat in video games if everything is run client-side?
02:28:56 juul: Thanks for explaining! I'll have to look at that code
02:28:58 Aldous: https://github.com/RangerMauve/hypergodot
02:30:24 juul: it seems like the long term solution to anti-cheat is reputation system rather than the endless back and forth between cheaters and anti-cheat which is very similar to the unwinnable war DRM is fighting against copying. As long as people have root access to their devices then cheating will be possible
02:32:03 Mauve (they/them): Yeah absolutely. One thing about p2p is that it's easier to opt-into interaction with folks so if you're usually interacting with people you actually want to see, it's less likely they'd wanna make an unfun experinence
02:32:53 patcon (he/him): yay for IxD first!
02:35:36 patcon (he/him): <3 the idea of a serendipitous internet
02:35:36 Veronika Gillies: what is link for quark? this is interesting
02:36:02 Veronika Gillies: patcon: exactly
02:36:22 Veronika Gillies: she said the world heh
02:36:29 Veronika Gillies: word*
02:36:35 mark seiden: i wonder if people should actually trust reddit more, since so many google reviews are totally faked
02:36:43 Maxim Khailo: Love that quark is kind of putting people into a virtual space across the web. Social layer across the web is intersting. Does quark support people annotating webpages as part of the content they share?
02:37:02 Veronika Gillies: match beta? sad panda
02:37:05 Veronika Gillies: march
02:37:25 patcon (he/him): i hope for an internet that feels more like a crowd gathering around a busker or street magician :)
02:37:50 patcon (he/him): (sometimes. not for all all things. haha)
02:37:54 Joy Zhang (she/her): https://joyzhang929104.typeform.com/to/ZLuNSpfr
02:38:05 Mauve (they/them): Wanna collab to get p2p protocols into your browser? a la Agregore :P
02:38:38 Veronika Gillies: i use hypothesis for my collective
02:38:44 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): Hypothes.is
02:39:04 mark seiden: i definitely want to find everybody who believes in the same conspiracy theories i believe in so we can get together and blow up some state capitol.
02:39:35 Coraline Ada Ehmke: Speaking as someone who has lived with targeted abuse, harassment, and even death threats for the past 7 years... Very interested in the safety considerations that are going into some of these tools. What does safety and moderation look like on the decentralized web?
02:39:49 patcon (he/him): ++coraline
02:40:07 Jack Jamieson: ++coraline
02:40:11 mark seiden: @coraline problem is generally with anonymity which advantages bad guys.
02:40:31 mark seiden: (and also speech of more beneficial kinds).
02:42:45 Coraline Ada Ehmke: It's a lot more complicated than that
02:44:05 mark seiden: (yeah, but i’m limited to 144 bytes)
02:45:00 Wendy Hanamura (she/her): @Coraline Trust, Safety and moderation are tackled in different ways by each of the Decentralized Social media— some by “trusted moderators” —here’s an overview we did earlier this year: http://blog.archive.org/2020/01/30/our-social-media-is-broken-is-decentralization-the-fix/
02:45:30 Joy Zhang (she/her): Hey guys! There’s an issue with the type form, so feel free to email me at joy@thequarkbrowser.com instead. Thanks for your patience!
02:45:31 Coraline Ada Ehmke: @wendy Thanks for sharing that-- I'll take a look
02:48:33 Mark Carranza: Web assembly — about JavaScript?
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02:49:37 Ese: Gather Link: https://gather.town/yDLHcduAtUVGITWf/dweb
Password: GetDweb
02:49:45 Jenny Ryan: post link?
02:49:51 Jenny Ryan: oh tx :)
02:50:23 Kenneth Osigwe: Thank you for your well articulated Presentation
02:50:27 Jenny Ryan: tx all!
02:50:27 Mauve (they/them): Thank youuu~~~
02:50:33 Joy Zhang (she/her): Thank you!